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The real cost of an iPhone in Ireland

A guest post mostly by Des Traynor : Never have I seen such nonsense printed regard a product price, as I have these past 10 days. It’d be one thing if it was just the usual luddites masquerading as technically adept journalists, but it’s everywhere. From 140 character rants on twitter, to lengthy essays about PaddyTax and the ridiculous premium we pay for living in this country. I am not going to speak out in favour of Apple or O2 here, but I would like to inform the debate that surrounds the O2 iPhone in Ireland.

The product price.

It’s the same price with a € instead of a $!!!

The iPhone costs $541 (about €361, based on PayPal’s current exchange rate) in an Apple store in New York. I know this, because I had one in my hands there only recently. New York charges a 7% sales tax on goods sold within the state. As does California. However in America it’s customary to display prices before tax.

The iPhone costs 499 euro in Ireland, after tax. Its pre tax price is €412.39. So, the first premium that us Irish are paying is on the handset, and it is €61. You can argue about historical currency rates and the like, if you wish. Suffice to say that Apple can’t increase the cost of a product in America to account for the fluctuations in currency. It’s worth pondering that on January 9th 2007, the day the iPhone was announced, exchange rates were different. $499 was worth €384, at least according to XE.

If you’re wondering why we’re comparing PayPal prices and not using money market conversion rates, it’s because you’re never going to be able to buy the dollar at that price. The exchange rates on XE for example, are essentially meaningless. The Paypal rates are something you can actually buy.

The tariffs

The next popular brown-trouser moment for “never-would-be” buyers is the tariffs. Lets look at O2’s closest competing cheaper tariff, the O2 Active Life 150.

  iPhone AL 150 Difference
Cost per month €45 €35 €10 dearer
Minutes per month 175 180 5 minutes less
Texts included 100 120 20 less texts
Data included (MB) 1000 0 1000MB more
Additional calls 20c 30c 10c cheaper

Reading off that table, basically for ten euro extra you get 5 minutes less calls, 20 less texts, but 1 gigabyte of data. It is my opinion that a ubiquitous net connection and 1 gig of data would actually mean I would use a phone less for calling/SMS.

You can argue that O2 are ripping us off regardless, of course. But the iPhone tariffs are not that different from their current ones.

The 1 gig limit

People are comparing the 1 gig limit to their current broadband consumption. This is beyond bizarre. Sure, a gigabyte is pretty terrible if you intend using your iPhone as your sole net connection, but even at that, think of all the bandwidth heavy tasks you do, and work out how many of them you’ll be doing on the iPhone. File sharing, downloading movies, online gaming? I would wager that most people won’t consume a gig a month, those that do should consider getting themselves a laptop. It’s not healthy to be staring a 3” screen that much.

The terms and conditions

Here is where O2 really kicks you in the nuts. Your un-used minutes, data and texts do not carry over from month to month, just like the O2 UK terms. In the US, AT&T carry your unused minutes for up to twelve billing periods.

The 18 month contract

It’s 2 years in the U.S. so be thankful! Seriously though, yes this is annoying, we all agree. 18 month contracts have been doing the rounds for a while, and it’s frustrating. If they guaranteed you that you can abandon the contract to move to a new iPhone on O2 it’d be okay, but at present it’s a tad vague.

That stupid formula

ZOMG! It’s a €1309 mobile phone!

I really can’t see the point in doing the usual (€499 + 18 x €45) price, and writing stuff like ZOMG! It’s a €1309 mobile phone! That same logic would lead you to believe that a Nokia 6300 costs €600. You can’t simply ignore the fact that you’re including a year and halfs worth of bills just to get shock factor.

Well, you can, but you’re not doing your credibility any favours.

This crap started in the US with people trying to expose the “true price” of the iPhone. Guess what, kids? Sensationalism = page hits!

So there you have it

If you think it’s a total rip off, you may well be right. The jury is still out for me, for me this is a new device. I can’t compare it to my phone, or my iPod really. It’s in a different league to all the other phones I see these days, it’s closest to maybe an iPod touch. The 16GB version costs €369, in case you were wondering.

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6 Comments

  1. Des Traynor on Mar 7, 11:32 am

    Just to add… The lack of visual voicemail is also a real pain in the ass.

  2. Bart Busschots on Mar 7, 01:02 pm

    What gets me is the contrast between what O2 give their customers in the UK compared to what they give their customers here in Ireland. The same monthly tariff gets you WAY more for your iPhone in the UK. Maybe it’s no more of a rip-off than everything else here but it’s still a rip-off in my book.

  3. David Barrett on Mar 7, 05:33 pm

    Yeah, it’s a rip-off, but it’s in no way unique to the iPhone. It’s what happens in this country, particularly with mobile operators and broadband providers.

    The issue is that people want to continue to call Apple a rip-off, and reality isn’t enough for them, so they invent a new reality for themselves to live in where different rules apply than, well, reality.

  4. David Barrett on Mar 7, 05:44 pm

    The lack of visual voicemail is a total pain in the ass, but one imagines it will probably (but not necessarily) be supported in time.

    My big concern would be how O2 handle the 3G iPhone (ie, the one I’m getting). I’d be really peeved if they took another 9 months from the US launch to get it over here.

  5. Oisin Prendiville on Mar 20, 01:58 am

    This “€61” price difference for the handset is also based on a on a pretty stupid formula. You’re comparing US rates inclusive of sales tax with Irish rates exclusive of VAT. I don’t imagine most consumers will be in a position to claim the tax back and so will be paying €499 and not €412 for the device.

  6. David Barrett on Apr 11, 09:55 pm

    Cheers Oisin. That’s a bit of a mistake on our parts, alright. The price comparison should be between the pre-tax prices in both places. The price difference is then about 90 euro… which is a bit more but I don’t consider it a huge difference.

    You state that most people will be in a position to claim the tax back, but our response is that any sales taxes applied onto the base price of the unit are most certainly NOT Apple’s responsibility and so cannot be pointed to as evidence of Apple ripping us Europeans off.

    The ONLY thing than can be used as evidence of that is the 90 euro price difference.

    Disclosure: I voted with my wallet and bought an iPhone with O2 last month.

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